Hey I didn't see anything bad posted about DTF. When someone's down, you don't kick them, especially publicly. and in case Kathy's too depressed to check email right now, Jack was bought from your breeding way back then, and she was never provided with e pedigre :o) so that's why the unknown parentage was probably mentioned. People in their grief may not realize their wording might look funny. Their emotions are raw as they share their sorrow. Folks, don't take everything so personally, 'K? Kim Wolf Mystyx Samoyeds, Ferrets and Rescue of Galloway, Ohio www.mystyxcritters.com www.mystyxrescue.petfinder.org [Posted in FML issue 3816]