Geeze...i'm just sick with the news that Kouri has ADV...just goes to show you never know..my Deepest Sympathies to all involved....;( You are in my Prayers. As far as Vets capable of GREAT Vena ligation..i want to add DR Darrell Kraft in Woodinville,Washington.He uses cryo VERY effectively.Solita had both adrenals cryod a year ago,April & was wanting to play the minute the pain meds wore off.She is 7 and STILL going strong... She never even bruised.. Although Bruiser could not be saved (nerve sheath tumor in the head;( he also performed wonderful cryo surgery (per DR Williams) on the last removal of that HORRIBLE tumor..Please remember him! Last call on the Jen Morrison trial tapes...i have sent most of them out.. but ran into a rather silly problem with duplicate mailings so those of you waiting..they will be there the first of the week,i promise! Money ($18.00) is still "trickling in" but these women involved NEED this money as soon as possible...I have collected about $340.00 so far but would sure like to see some more!!!;) Also...you who DO have it.."What did you think?" Personally? I found it a "joke"..Lisette found it "compelling" We would LOVE to hear your findings! As far as we know,she is still operating.She has 2 ferrets listed on her site..UGH...makes me ill....;( I do forward EVERYTHING to Kris Neal,the prosecutor..ANY info PLease mail me?? I'm also in contact with a Sue,who is an animal cruelty officer in Layton... We also possibly have another collector in Magna Utah..things are slow but the authorities are aware...may be connected to Jen...not sure;( Thank you EVERYONE who has participated..At least i am getting her "face" out there...the odds she will stop are remote..please help me with this??? Also remember...ALL proceeds will go this week to Troy Lynn,Jackie Hawley & Linda Soule...three of the Utah Angels still incurring HUGE bills on these kids.... Love & Health! Tara Join our Ferret Group!! Club Med Ferrets http://groups.yahoo.com/group/clubmedferrets "Old age isn't for sissies".....Helen Hayes [Posted in FML issue 3806]