We call this little maneuver, "spin, spin ferret". Our deaf fuzzies (3 of them) seem to do this the most. They will be play fighting and just start spinning. It's hysterical to watch. We have a short section of drainage pipe that they like to play in and there will be one fuzzy butt sticking out of each end. As they try to bite each other, both butts will be spinning around in the tube. Wonder what advantage they think that gives them?? They also find spinning in the rice box to be entertaining, as well. As to vaccines: I live in Florida (i'm noticing there is much debate about vaccines in this state). Someone had posted about rabies being required by the state of Florida. It is my understanding (per local vets), that this is being reviewed. We have gone to 3 different vets in our area for our variety of pets and all three have basically told us, that while they feel distemper is 100% necessary, rabies vaccines were not as necessary for ferrets that have little or no exposure factors. They have stated they feel it should not be a required vaccine for ferrets. They basically give us the choice. While we have 5 vaccinated for rabies, we have not gotten our 2 youngest (4 and 5 months) vaccinated for rabies YET, only distemper. We are still researching this issue (btw, my partner works for a board certified vet in our area so we are by no means ignorant on the subject, lest someone should decide to put in their $.02 with much force and hostility). We are interested to see how this will play out, as having 7 ferrets vaccinated annually for rabies is a costly venture (no one in our area will do a 3 yr rabies anymore it seems). Anything that cuts down on expense is a good thing in my opinion, as long as it is not harmful to the fuzzy. (Being that we have 7 ferrets, 3 of them being over 3 1/2, we know we will have other expenses to incur when they get older) Our ferrets don't often leave our home, except for vet visits and the only ones allowed to handle them in our home are family. As to the distemper, I think that is too dangerous to take a chance on, it is almost 100% fatal and there is too much of an exposure factor, even from unknown sources. Whereas, (pardon my graphic-ness) if a rabid dog were ever able by some god-like feat of miraculousness to get a hold of one of my babies, rabies would be the least of my concerns, finding the rest of my fuzzy's head and limbs would be first and foremost. ( I am being facetious, no negative remarks, Puh-lease!) That is my opinion, all flames will be ignored and deleted. I haven't time for ignorance nor man's inhumanity to man. (Nor man's inhumanity to FuzzyKind!) Heather and Becky With Abby, Andre, Annie, Arthur, Avery (aka Sleepy), Bob and our latest addition, Peanut (aka Peanut-Buttery) Heather R. Byrd First Community Insurance [log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 3800]