The peroxide I mentioned when I posted about the vinegar-peroxide cleaner, is just plain old everyday use peroxide you get OTC at drug stores or grocery stores - the kind you use on cuts, etc. Sells for 2/$1.00 or sometimes 3/$1.00 her in VA. Safe for use in people, ferrets, and reptiles if used as I mentioned in my post - used with plain white vinegar. If anyone missed the post, if you email me, I will send you the info... [log in to unmask] Jane and Rikki, FiFi, and BeBe ("Beebers") [Posted in FML issue 3722]