I have seen repeatedly, on this forum, people simply discarding and discrediting everything ALF and/or PETA do. For the most part, people have stated that the organizations are "crazy, fanatical, lunatics". Although I agree that they take things to extremes, which sometimes don't end up in the best interest of the animal (releasing mink is a prime example), I would like to know why ALF and/or PETA would "fake" pictures of a break in. This is why I would like some logical answers from those who completely dismiss all of the allegations against Marshall Farms, think about the following before answering: 1) ALF has no financial interests in breaking into MF 2) ALF participants are putting themselves at risk of jail time, etc... 3) ALF would have no reason (nor would any other group) to organize something unless they have seen things that are very upsetting. It takes a tremendous amount of effort to organize this type of activity. 4) ALF is not trying to "recruit" animal enthusiasts - they are an "underground" operation as far as I can tell. There is just nothing to support why ALF does these things besides the fact that they care about animals and then sometimes take that to extremes. Perhaps if Marshall Farms was forthcoming with information and answers to allegations in writing, there wouldn't be so much secrecy and even less interest for these groups to go to extremes to reveal the truth. There simply are no "typical" motivations (money, recruiting, etc...) Please, someone enlighten me on why a group puts themselves in harms way. [Moderator's note: Please enlighten in private e-mail to Danielle. It's not appropriate to discuss ALF's methods on the FML unless the discussion is very specific to ferrets. BIG] [Posted in FML issue 3657]