>I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, I am actually hoping >maybe some on the FHL would review this & respond. I don't know if we >"general public" ferret folks can post on the FHL or not?? Only members of the FHL may post on the FHL, though non-members may read there. It's EASY to join. Just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ferret-Health-list/ and follow the instructions, OR send a blank mail from the addy you will use to: [log in to unmask] (Then, if you prefer digest form, send a second -- also with nothing written within it -- this time to [log in to unmask] . I do NOT carry questions or replies TO the FHL, and the cross-posts from the FHL are made with the permissions already secured from the experts quoted. right now I am exhausted so do not trust myself to be sharp enough to tackle the more complex questions you posed. [Posted in FML issue 3653]