That was great to hear some of MF's thoughts and answers in regards to their ferret practices. Of course a lot of it didn't sound so great to me, although on the whole it did sound positive. Except for one part that nags at me - the retired breeders. They go to a vet clinic where they can be operated on by people training to do neuters/spays/descents ? Ok, that doesn't sound great but then sometimes they are adopted by these vet clinics?! Then what ? Do they receive unnecessary or explorative surgery? That may not be the case, but if so then geez, euthanasia starts to sound more positive! What a great idea though about a program where shelters adopt the retired breeders and MF supports them through product donations. (of course I agree with you, MF should already be supporting shelters regularly. which would inturn help them if ferrets adopted out were already partial to MF products). Risa [Posted in FML issue 3632]