Janell & Fivel - About talking, my guys don't talk at all unless they are playing and not much then either. My friend even brought over her 3 ferts to play with my 2 and no dooking noises. A fight did happen and some screeches, when one of her ferrets decided to move into Frank's cage and sleep in his bed. Kind of like the 3 bears, who's been sleeping in my bed? I wouldn't give any sort of treats due to all the medical problems ferrets can get. My guys get four things and that is it. Totally Ferret, Water, Ferretone and Vaseline for the hairballs. They enjoy getting a treat 1x a day: their own food out of my hand, Vaseline for hairballs 2x a week and Ferretone for nail trimming and ear cleaning, plus sometimes I put it on top of their food, oooo yummy they love that. They still drive me crazy when I am eating anything. Poncho komokozi dives off the edge of the couch to my back or head, ouch nails. So I put them in the cage when we eat, that way they don't feel deprived and we can eat in peace. In my mind it isn't really a treat if it ends up making them ill or killing them in the long run. I would rather be tough with my guys about treats than have to send them to the vet, have them take meds, have surgery or worse yet leave this world. So I am firm about what they eat. Boy can those cute little eyes make feel guilty. I hope that helps. Kim the Oregon one Kim Reyes John L. Scott Real Estate Westside Residential Specialist Direct: (503) 380-4195 Fax: (503) 579-8745 Toll Free: 1-877-490-2595 Voice Mail: (503) 245-6052 x 180 Website: http://www.kimreyes.com [Posted in FML issue 3623]