Thanks to Heather for the MF info. That took a lot of time to write out for newbies. I know full well. Personally, I have one of the MF ferrets that came in so tiny, his eyes were not opened yet. The vet did not hold out much hope Sunny would survive. It happened at another Petco store here around the same time. provided info on this to anyone who wanted to call the store and verify this. One does not have to love or even like PETA. They have provided info to help animals. If MF found the info concerning them damaging AND false-they would need to sue Peta. I have not read anywhere of this. This does NOT speak well of MF. They wanted to have a site for puppies. No one wanted them. So they tried to go out of the country. That countries people revolted such an action. I believe it was France. MF really needed to sue PETA if they could show what a caring and safe place they have. They did not do this to the best of my knowledge. Peta has gone too far at times and broken the law, and they have made statements that are not true. I have written and spoken with some of the key people there. They do what they must in a world that has little to no respect for the life of animals. They do what they must in a world that does not play by the rules all too often.. That is how the people I spoke to felt. No. They are not perfect. But they are not motivated by greed or the bottom dollar. And they have made significant contributions to aid animals. My thought is that if what they have discovered, and others BESIDES PETA have written is false-MF should have sued them big time. They have the money for it. But even their vet of one time discussed how bad things there were in a newspaper article. Look it up in the archives. It is not bashing to discuss a problem. I was frankly taken aback by the term MF bashing. I found "bashing" in the person who was name calling during the debate concerning MF a year or so ago. Only information that could be substantiated was to be presented. But this is not what was allowed. Now That was deliberate "bashing" *Don't forget that MF murders the mothers of your MF ferrets while deciding how you feel about them. The mother of your MF baby was murdered, or will be murdered by MF. This is according to the vet who worked there: a vet who is relatively famous, as she has written several books on ferrets. I don't know about the other farms. I did not find any info about them. It is utterly unacceptable no matter who is doing it in my opinion.* [Posted in FML issue 3622]