I have both two ferrets and a Moluccan cockatoo....certain disaster ever the twain should meet, so that is exactly how I deal with it....Lucifer's (the bird) 'out-time' is when the ferrets (Sturm und Drang) are caged, and vice-versa. For the most part, when the bird is out, he is in an area away from the ferrets' cage, and when the ferrets are out, Lucifer is closed in another room (keeps him from screaming at the ferrets, as well). G. A. Christian Bilou [Posted in FML issue 3594]