>[Moderator's note: I sent Debbie the list. One way to get it is to e-mail >[log in to unmask] and place the text: >GET SHELTER LISTS FERRET >in the body of the e-mail. Note the final S on the word LISTS -- sorry, >that's a server restriction. BIG] Another way to find the SOS list is to go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ferret-Health-list and look in the Files section. With such important things available in multiple places folks are covered when one server has problems. That's one reason that there are cross-posts,too. Many aspects of the FHL are available to non-members, but only members may post. BTW, combining that with the recommended vets list there is a fine way to find a vet, whether for regular use or when traveling as many do this season. I know that Bill doesn't tend to mention it, but those folks who have never read the header to the daily FML really should; there are a number of interesting things in there to help folks! Bill's given an incredible amount of thought and effort to having an excellent resource; no wonder it's the most popular ferret list available! While we are on the subject of the FML: thank you so very much for the huge amount of work you put in, Bill! MFs: most of what one hears is either based on anecdotal experiences (which may be good, bad, or average -- depending on household), rumor, very old and defunct reports, or false reports. What IS true is that they also sell ferrets to laboratories, and their sterilizations are done by techs rather than vets. That is what it boils down to. Oh, and every other large farm (There are at least 4 others) has its own list of problems, so it's pick and choose. We brought two home directly years ago from one other large farm only to have ECE break out in our household for the first time. For the healthiest ferrets go for ones that are bred by people who keep detailed health records for parents, sibs, half-sibs, aunts and uncles, etc. and who follow the health of ferrets after they leave when possible (not always possible due to personal interaction problems, folks moving, etc.). Do not confuse show-winnings with winning health; sometimes those two groups over-lap and sometimes they don't. For dogs, cats, and horses shows have meant many decreases in health and longevity when appearances are placed first since appearances that please human aesthetics do not always go along with healthy genetics. Insist on health and longevity records! Health and longevity first! The worst ferrets in terms of health are from backyard breeders who in-breed like crazy and provide terrible care. Some of these ferrets have been found being falsely sold as coming from farms. That's the sort of thing that breeders alone likely can't manage usually so it requires the collusion of distributors or stores. Still, it happens because the farms are well-known and advertise a lot, so their names are recognizable to those who are unaware of alternative sources beyond stores for ferrets. As Bill has said you can read about MF forever by going to the archives. If you read the header for any given issue of the FML you will find info on the archives there. Way too few people have paid attention to the header so here is PART of it, and also go to the top and read the rest! >* To receive a copy of the FML FAQ (last updated 01/28/01), which discusses > the FML in far greater detail, send mail to [log in to unmask] > with "SEND FML FAQ" as a single line in the mail (don't use the quotes) >* To get the Ferret Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), full of information > and advice about ferrets, use "SEND ANSWERS PACKAGE FERRET". PLEASE > read the FAQ before you send non-emergency postings to the list!!! >* Use "SEND FERRET nnnn" to get backissues of this newsletter. >* Searchable archives: > <http://listserv.cuny.edu/archives/ferret-search.html> [Posted in FML issue 3613]