You I have to agree with Dede. Why not use a ferret or at least try to in the rescue. They are tunnelers and can get into tight spaces, the only problem would be to get them back out of the rubble safely. The military has used them before in wiring airplanes according to history and more recently was used for a computer wiring glitch at Peterson AFB, CO. Also wanted to let everybody know that Especially Ferrets website is back up and running. Take a look at it and see. Thanks to all that helped the Utah Ferrets. I understand that they all got homes. We took in 7 of them this morning. Wish we could have taken more. Ferretgal [Posted in FML issue 3543]