A few years ago, I used to pitch in on the orders to RCF with a lady named Marilyn Moreland. Marilyn provides most of the small mammals to a chain of Pet Citys and Petlands. I considered the RCF ferrets to be of good quality, except maybe a little more aggressive than most other breeders that I have encountered. They have a tendency to get larger, and grow to be be quite healthy and long lived. My problem with RCF is their ethics. I found out that Marilyns cure for biter ferrets is to cut off their canines with a pair of toenail clippers. I have seen her do it and I have had her brag to me many times about doing it. I currently have two ferrets in my possesion that she has done this awful and cruel procedure to. I have also turned her into the state vet several times each time I hear about it. I have clients who have ferrets with cut off canines, who tell me Marilyn did it to their ferret too. At first, I didn't really believe she would do such a thing, but when I actually watched in horror as she did it, i believed!! I have quit doing any kind of business with her and siezed two little girls from her, and when she arrived at the shelter with the police, she was advised that she had to sue me incourt and win them back. I know that no court in this world would give them back to her and so did she. She dropped the matter. I called RCF and reported this cruel bx to them and not only do they continue to sell her ferrets, they won't ship to me. They don't believe that she would do such a thing. It's just as well, I prefer to keep things arould here ethical, and Marilyn, if this post has injured your business in any way, sue me. Ferretguy [Posted in FML issue 3483]