[2-part post, combined. BIG] Yikes! I'm here! I'm here! And a bit disappointed with the tone of some FML'ers lately. But, that's just my opinion and it's not worth more than anyone else's. Thank you to everyone who sings such high praises for Ferrets for Dummies. It always makes me feel good and heaven knows you guys do a much better job at publicizing than the actual publisher! With that in mind: >>From: Sukie Crandall <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: book; listening > >Georgia wrote: >>Matan, Kim Shilling - TALK TO EACH OTHER! Actually, Matan, Kim has a >>truly wonderful book out, through a publisher that perhaps does, or can, >>translate to hebrew, or that you can do the translation for. Then Sukie wrote: >Yes, this book is absolutely marvelous for anyone! I know of vets who >keep it around to educate people, too! Kim may be a bit too busy with >health concerns such as her broken back and broken pelvis from a riding >accident to teach extensively right now, though. The publishing house >certainly will be able to discuss translation options. Yes, can't a girl break her back in peace? Or pieces? I'm recovering slowly, BUTT surely from a broken back and pelvis. I shuffle around like I'm 105, but at least I can shuffle!! And I'm also nursing a very fragile pregnancy which miraculously survived my bad fall. Despite all that, I'm very rusty on my Hebrew, so I couldn't possibly translate. hehehehe. I might be able to translate to Latin or Greek, but it's been years since I was asked to do something like that. My publisher might consider translating if there was truly a market for such a thing. I'd like to see it translated into Spanish, French, whatever...... But publishers are in it for the money only. Someone would have to prove to them there's a big enough market. If they don't see a possibility of making quite a hefty profit, then they won't invest their own time and money to translate and market it. Hell, they aren't doing such a great job marketing it in ENGLISH. I dunno what else to say. On another note, my uncle is a Jesuit in Rome. He is fluent in 12 languages including Hebrew. Maybe he'd be interested in trading his bible for a ferret book a few times a day. Translating certain words/ideas will be difficult. Sukie further says: >If you do think of writing a book, Matan, you will need to interact and >LISTEN to those who have much more experience than you have. That is not >a criticism, simply a bluntly stated fact. Even those who do have a lot >of experience (such as Kim) have long lists of thank yous to those whose >advice, comments, and suggestions made their books as good as they are. >Take a look at Kim's beautiful acknowledgements section when you buy her >book, _Ferrets for Dummies_ in which about 50 people are thanked. I could not have written that book without the help of people WAY more knowledgeable about ferrrets than I am. I still do not consider myself more knowledgeable than most of the old timers on this list (forgive my choice of words). In fact, in certain cases when people ask for help, I refer them to people I know specialize in certain things - such as problem biters! Matan, if you do go off on your own writing spree, get some help! The best reference books are put together with MANY minds. >From: matan rosenstrauch <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: KIM SHILLING - WHERE R U? >I NEED KIM SHILLING. DOES ANY1 HAVE HER E-MAIL? AND KIM - IF U READ >THIS E MAIL ME POR FAVOR. > >MATAN FROM ISRAEL. I'm here, Matan! You now have my e-mail address. Don't know how much I can help you, but I'll try if you're willing to do some of the leg work yourself. Someone once e-mailed the FML looking for me and I did respond privately. I could swear it was you (by the consistent mispelling of my last name), but I never did hear back. Por favor? hehehehehe. I'm not very good with my Spanish, Matan, so don't go switching languages on me! >From: Kim Reyes <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Matan >Well guys, Matan does exist. When I sent him Ferret for Dummies, to an >Israel address, he sent me an email thanking me and asking why I did it. >I told him that he seemed to need information and help. That's so cool. We're in Israel now! Unfortunately, I don't think it helped if he's asking you why you would send it to him. I don't read the FML much. It's hard enough to try to heal and care for over 100 animals (more than 45 species). And I'm back to work already! Sometimes I scan the FML posts to see if anything catches my eye. The fact that Matan was listed as a topic so many times caught my eye. I thought I'd check it out. I don't have much to say in defense of some of his ideas. Some of his posts make my shiver. On the other hand, some of the other FML posts make me cringe too. I don't know if Matan really even wants help and that can be extremely frustrating to those who try or those who continue to read his posts. I do know that culture differences play a very big role in the heated emotions being flung back and forth. I think he needs help from people of his own culture. I mean, can you see a native Chinese person coming here and asking us to help write a book on caring for dogs before cooking them up for a family dinner. I would have a difficult time with that one, but I could help with some of the other husbandy issues. The fact is, Matan's culture is very different from ours. They view animals differently. We don't have to like it, but we can't change it. I can see myself writing some pretty heated things aimed at Matan and also Matan's attackers. So, I stay out of it as much as I can. However, it REALLY saddens me when people attack another person because of their broken language, an imperfect understanding of English, poor spelling or grammar! While I disagree terribly with a lot of what Matan posts and his often cocky appearing attitude, I do admire the fact that he keeps coming back in his broken English after being ridiculed for his broken English. I think it's the lowest of the low to cut people residing in other countries down for not being more educated in the English language. How many of you attacking Matan are fluently bilingual? And if you are, how many people ridiculed you when you didn't get it just right? And people in the US? Not everyone was afforded a wonderful education like most of you. Not everyone can spell perfectly, put their commas in the right places or whatever - yet these people are made fun of by some of you. Some of you should just keep to yourself and count your blessings that you're luckier than many around you. I'm sorry for the rant in the end. I have a handicapped brother who was often poked fun of and ridiculed by perfect people. And the funny thing is that he's perfect in more ways than most of the people who ridiculed him. Making fun of someone's lack of education or early stage of education just sucks in my eyes. I can't tolerate that and I'm completely baffled by people who haven't been raised a little better than that. Again, I'm not speaking about the posts attacking Matan's ideas or attitude, although some of those were pretty sickening. I'm speaking only about attacking his or anyone else's grammar, spelling or English. That blows me away. Respectfully and in pain, Kim Schilling and the Zoo Author of "http://www.animalsforawareness.org/Ferret%20Book.htm" Ferrets for Dummies Director, "http://www.animalsforawareness.org" Animals for Awareness "Protection through Education" A USDA, 501(C)3 non-profit educational facility dedicated to exotic and wild animals. 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