Ya know people... it was only a question .. I honestly didn't know.. I ALSO didn't mean to open a can of worms here.. I can see why so many emailed me offline .. Also for the record... I was not bashing Marshall Farms.. I was asked the question .. and I didn't know the answer.. So I passed the question along.. to people I figured would know .. I guess one would consider it a sad but good truth .. I have started to read what they do to the ferrets during some testing and had to stop ... not for me ... But I am glad that it helps people and ferrets... I only wish there was another way ... Thanks. for all the responses... Cheers Randy [Posted in FML issue 3446]