I know one of the lists dealt with this issue in depth at one point and I thought I kept the information (until I went to look at it this week). Guess I cleaned out files that I didn't mean to - DARN!!. I can't find it, I even tried to search FHL, FOB and FML. If anyone has kept this info in a file somewhere and can send it to me or refer me to a site with this info, I would greatly appreciate it. We have gone from Winter to Summer in a few weeks and the ants have started showing up. The past few years they have found ways to enter and search out food (especially ferret and cat food) and I want to stop this nuisance ASAP without harming the ferrets, cat and people in the house. Thanks for helping! Linda and Norman & the 7 fuzzy and sweet terrors: Frisky, Sassy, May, Rascal, Bandit, Saint Patrick (Paddy), and Mittens from Lawrence, KS [Posted in FML issue 3380]