>From: Lee Hamilton <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Coloidal silver use >As she became more bald with every passing day,a friend of our mentioned >that a few drops of coloidal silver (a very old fashion natural med) in >her water bowl everyday may help to slow down her disease. Your description of how Zuzu's disease progressed is not really atypical for an untreated adrenal tumor in a female. IT is exactly the same way things progressed for our Fuzzface (our second ferret) when we made the decision not to treat her second adrenal tumor. She two had a full coat with no swollen vulva by the end. She two lasted a couple of years after the first signs of the second tumor. She was almost five and a half when she had the surgery to remove the first tumor and was over seven and a half when she passed away. This was before bilateral adrenal surgeries were as routine as they are now. Colloidal silver is not very old fashioned. It is rather new only dating back a few decades. It is not the same silver used in older times. It is not a natural medicine. Electrically processed heavy metals are not natural. It is no more natural than electroplating. It is not really a medicine. It has been loudly proclaimed quackery by the US FDA. It has never passed any study for safety or efficacy. We are sorry for Zuzu's passing but the colloidal silver did not help. We strongly encourage others to read up on colloidal silver but from reputable sources. There have never been reputable sources cited that recommend this poison as medicine. >From: ferret <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Colloidal silver use >Yes, actually colloidal silver use has been discussed extensively on this >list, as many of us (ferret owners and ferret shelter operators) have used >it to treat our ferrets. It has been very discredited on this list. >I have posted extensive references for colloidal silver to this list in >the past Actually you have not. We are still waiting for any reference that recommends colloidal silver that is not written from a false name or false organization. So far we have had only articles claimed to be from people who have disavowed them and from institutions that either do not exist are likewise disavow them. We have however posted many articles including from the FDA where Colloidal silver is very clearly described as bad. Conditions from the silver that are irreversible are mentioned. PLus the very simply stated >>FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports >>the safe and effective use of colloidal silver ingredients or silver >>salts for any animal disease condition. This is from an article titled "COLLOIDAL SILVER NOT APPROVED" and can be found at http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/silver.html This seems pretty clear. It further states >>In addition to the possible human health concerns, use of these products >>to treat a serious illness in animals (including pets) could potentially >>endanger the health of the animal by delaying timely, appropriate >>treatment. Do not substitute colloidal silver for appropriate treatment. There are some strong proponents of CS here but so far all they have is claims that it helped anecdotally but their anecdotes are not inconsistent with no treatment at all in most cases. >Unfortunately, the topic of colloidal silver *has* been rather >"contentious" on this list in the past, so it's probably best not >to enter into another extensive discussion of its merits. The contentiousness can be avoided if you do indeed post this references you claim to have. Perhaps we should actually try to work this issue out. Both sides should be prepared to back up their point of view. We are more than willing and will not use ad hominem attacks nor any other fallacious reasoning. bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferret [Posted in FML issue 3325]