Seems like it is happening again!!! For you new to the fml, last year at this time we read what Kevin Gilbert of Desert Moon Ferrets was doing to his cutomers. Failing to ship ferrets to people who had already pre-paid for them. Many hurt folks that never seen their ferret(s) or their money. One friend was taken for over 2000.00!!! This year we hear of another.. Nadine Downs of Phoenix Fuzzy Ferrets. She sent Tina Gutshaw a female ferret instead of a male!Tina called me and ask if it is hard to tell a male from a female at age 7 weeks of age. Tina felt that it was not fair to send this ferret all the way back across country and said she would keep her, Tina felt Nadine should settle up with her on the matter and Nadine told Tina to send her a copy from a vet to say the he ferret is really a she. Tiny went to the vet ...got the paper with the proof, emailed Nadine a copy and ALSO sent her the copy by U.S. mail. Never herd from Nadine on the matter and the letter with the proof of sex was sent back to her, un-opened!!! Excuse me, you don't do this to people.... all of this could have been settled so easily. I feel Tina's letter on the fml today was one of no bitterness toward Nadine. Just facts and with hope to see the mess straighten out and not to happen to someone else in the future. I strongly feel that Nadine should settle up with Tina and and take a good look at of her own actions and ask herself "is this the way I would want to be treated by someone?" I will add that Tina lost 2 ferrets within 1 months time!! The first ferret's papers have not came back from the lab, the vet told her is was caused from a rare ferret disease. The second one a lovely mellow boy named Huey died on the vets table while being neutered. I am involved in this because she got Huey from me and she and I have both grieved over the loss of our boy! She wanted another boy and I had none for her so she went to Nadine. I never dreamed someone would do this to the girl after all she has been though! I have read every email she has sent Nadine and they have not been nausty ones. I am proud of Tina for keeping a good attitude toward Nadine. I emailed Nadine about 3 weeks ago on this matter and she responded that Tina sent her nausty emails and she felt she gave Tina a good deal on the ferret and Tina liked the ferret when she talked to her after Tina picked it up from the airport. I admire Tina for not shipping the ferret back, hard telling where this little one would be now. Back to Kevin Gilbert of Desert Moon ferrets, he alao is located in the Phoenix area and has since gone underground I am told. I find all of this very interesting. Thank you Bill Gruber for trying to get both Kevin and Nadine to make things right with their customers before they were mentioned on the fml...good try, shame it didn't work!! Debbie Scott http://www.blarg.net/~critter/dscott.html "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" [Posted in FML issue 3322]