I would like to respond to Rebecca Stoudt's post regarding a universal color chart. It is a good idea, but, unfortunately, it ain't gonna happen! There are too many "personalities" involved in the different organizations that seem to be afraid of a loss of control or power if God forbid another group would use their same terminology or standards. Many years ago, I was involved in a committee made up of representatives of at least 4 prominent ferret organizations, that was designed to come up with a standard judging, scoring, and I believe color standard for ALL ferret organizations to use. Well, needless to say, it didn't fly, as politics of course got in the way. This person was calling that person discussing things without the other committee members knowledge, and agreeing to how things were to be done. By the time a meeting was scheduled, all the little "sub-groups" had figured out how THEY wanted things to be, and discussion was a moot point. This group met a fairly quick death, as the real back-stabbing and name calling soon began. So, unfortunately, Rebecca, although you have a sound idea, with the mentality of many in the ferret world, I can't see the day coming. You still hear a variety of names for the different silvers...who here knows what a platinum or argent or pewter silver is? (FYI, that's a light, medium, and a dark silver.) Another group has an entirely different name for the dark silvers! And cinnamon is another example ... champagne, butterscotch...they are all different shades of cinnamon. It is all semantics! Di Bachman Frosty Paws Ferrets [Posted in FML issue 3326]