Thank you Christopher for letting me know that my url had a typo on it. Yesterday, I posted a site for everyone to visit.... everyone is also allowed to have it linked onto their sites, and to used it at will .. it is a gift. If you need to know what ADV is in a staight talk kind of way go to this url. If you need a refresher, or want to know ADV more indepth this site also has that information.... http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv/adv-straight.html I am so sorry this site had a typo yesterday. Know that many wonderful links are there also, including links to Judys's sites, vet sites, and message board. Wolfy Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv/ for information on ferret deafness: http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv [Posted in FML issue 3332]