Mornin' Folks! Yvonne, you were right to ask for information on Marshall Farms. Another thing you would be unaware of since you are new to the list is that what you may take as short or curt from the Killians is just a no nonsense writing style. Also this is a subject they feel strongly about, and have most likely gotten much grief over, both public and private, because their opinion differs so dramatically from most of the rest of the list. When they discuss it, providing they have not been attacked, it is with to-the-point answers. Their response to you was informative as far as how they feel about the situation, as well as being a different viewpoint from most others you might get, which is exactly what you were looking for, and I didn't read ANYTHING which could be called "bitterness" or a "reprimand." Though, as I said, as a new member of the list, you would not know to expect that kind of to-the-point answer. Also as a new member of the list, you would not be aware of the "bitterness" Ms. Eisenman has toward the Killians, and perhaps vice versa. You should not have had to experience that either. Nearly anything either one of them has to say about the other MUST be taken with a grain of salt. Personally, I disagree with Ms Eisenman more than I agree with her, and I agree with the Killians more than I disagree with them. Others on this list are different. I myself, have grown tired of the entire situation, and with few exceptions skip any post from either one which mentions the other. I do still read the Killians' posts, because often the information contained therein is fairly interesting, and usually remains of a scientific or technical nature, though they are VERY opinionated. (Not necessarily a bad thing, just something to be aware of.) You are right in assuming this list is for the benefit of ferrets, through education and support of those people owned by them. For the most part we are a happy and content community, who join together in times of need and always find a little bit of our hearts to give to each other. NEVER choose NOT to ask a question. You WILL learn quickly, as all of us have, that there are certain subjects which spark heated debates, and those are usually best to avoid, unless you are ready to deal with the negativity of some on the list. Marshall Farms, ADV, the AFA, Choices of kibble and other nutritional disagreements have all sparked flame wars between certain parties on this list. My advice is be careful, and make sure you get to know the people on this list before you start taking one person's word over another's. And that includes me, and this post. :-) One last thing, Yvonne, dear. WELCOME!! We are glad to have you! Give kisses to your fuzzy from me. Know that you have a whole lot of people who are ready and willing to help you with your questions, and ready to share your happy moments and your sad ones. :-) Melissa Barnes Mira, Cael, Tasha and Robin www.geocities.com/lostferrets ===== Melissa www.geocities.com/lostferrets [Posted in FML issue 3274]