Well I have obviously let my reading get too far behind and see that the common bickering that is so much a part of the ferret mailing list is still going strong as ever. People calling each other idiots, the usual finger-pointing, and flaming that I have come to know that goes hand in hand with this list. But I must say that from the few months that I have been a member I have received a wealth of knowledge, giggles, tears, and even one hell of a hot a** from a few flames myself. The first one hurt and I did what most others would do and stood my ground until Mr. Moderator jumped in at a piont that I was surely to get as nasty as some of the posts I have seen here, and said a few kind words. Made me realize that I was literally turning into the person who flamed me. Now I sit quietly on the side still responding when something comes up that concerns me. There are times that I think that some people live sleep eat and breathe ferrets, and thats ok. =) I recently have a new addition to my family of the canine kind. Been busy with a new job and the 7 hours or so I spend with my ferrets and pup every night. But I still enjoy reading this list. The one thing that I have learned to do with the advice of so many wonderful and smart people, is to take what you need from this list advize when you can help and use a heavy dose of the delete button. The holidays are right around the corner, and the love at these times is amazing. WOuldn't it be nice if we could find that feeling every day on the Ferret Mailing List??? Although me may not all agree on one certain way or food or vaccine, lets all agree that we're not all going to agree and have a more kind and warm list for the new year. Help when needed and knowing when to back off of a subject is also needed. Remembering to look at both sides of the issue and place yourself in the other persons shoes. Let's try to keep members instead of running them off. Oh and would love to say a quick hello to Kat!!!!! =) Have a wonderful Holiday Season filled with Love and COMPASSION!!!!!!! Piko Ghengus Loki Bodhi Ron and Matt [Posted in FML issue 3223]