Amy Wrote: >And, furthermore, knowing that your ferrets have been exposed to ADV - how >could you "loan" out these to other breeders? Do they know about Teddy? Yes , I do. Ilsa was tested 3 times and is negative. >You said that you never hid the fact - but you never admitted it, either. Publicly, I can see why.Look at the rumours! Everyone goes into a panic, embellishes, and exaggerates the truth. When asked, private persons were told the whole truth.You must be enjoying this "scandal" immensely and enjoy twisting the truth. Now, instead of prpgegating the rumour mill,look at the paperwork, it's all there,ADV negative results! >>If you've participated in repeating these rumors, stop now! > >I don't think anybody started the rumours, Kathy, you did a good job >painting the picture all by yourself. >Amy FlemmingFlemming Farms Amy, I was there, I've been involved, SOMEONE(And I know, and they know, and Kathy knows who "they" are) Bought a ferret from me.She returned it because "someone" told her it had ADV and waardenburg markers(roaning chocolate female)So, We tested her, her mother, her grandparesnts,her siblings, and ALL the ferrets in BOTH ferretries.Guess what? NOBODY HAS IT! Most of them had been tested before.Ask the other HOFA club members how many of their ferrets were dud studded by Teddy, and tested negative, and they still have or STILL breed those Jills!!! I KNOW they still do. I've talked to some of them, and i know otehr people who have bought ferrets FROM those jills and their breeders.The whole flipping club has tested and retested.the RESULTS ARE NEGATIVE!Therefore, in tests performed and confirmed by medical proffessionals, OUR FERRETS DO NOT HAVE ADV.Shame on anybody who still perpetuates this sick rumour. Maybe we should invent crap based on one incident about you and your ferrets and spread it all over the internet too. I'm have higher ethics than that and won't stoop to that level. My ferrets are HEALTHY, HAPPY, and LOVED. I've only had ONE litter!Those babies tested negative too,BTW. I've been a shelter for 3 years before doing any breeding.I knew kathy and her ferrets.I took in a few of her ferrets when she became seriously ill. They have been tested, and evaluated by other local breeders,with top winning lines.That same top winner studded to Ilsa.HER ferrets are negative, and some were studded by Teddy too. Read the afcts, folks.You'r much too intelligent to accept a bunch of negative propeganda from people who don't have anything better to do than gossip and make trouble. I'm too busy keeping my self walking the good path in life than to try to ruin somebody elses walk. If you don't like my path, stop littering it, get off of it ,and find your own damn way. I Harm None, a directive of my own faith. But I WILL defend me and mine.How dare you!YOU CAN'T DENY THE FACT OF THE PAPERWORK SHOWING THEY ARE NEGATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!Are you people so catty or afraid of someone else taking ribbons in the ring that you have to resort to this kind of childish finger-pointing and namecalling behavior? SHEESH! BTW I do NOT know Amy Flemming, I recently joined a web ring which she approved me in and let me use a graphic from.I am removing that graphic.How can she promote me as a shelter on her ring, yet badmouth me publicly like this on an email list? I've never met her or spoken to her,other than to email asking for permission to use the graphic.I am the ONLY person who took ferrets for breeding from Kathy.Some I took as pets and placed as such.I am the ONLY person (you used plurals in your post)who she "loaned" her jills to.(two of them,Ilsa and Suki,Dureena will be the third)From these litters I will be selecting my breeding stock for my OWN lines,which will be evaluated by other breeders in HOFA. Do you think, after THREE YEARS of shelter work, I would be dumb enough to used diseased ferrets when I decided to breed??? You do not know me, Amy Flemming. You never will because I don't want anything to do with you after this. I don't want anything to do with ANYONE so unwholesome as to make judgement calls about situations which you know so little about,were never involved in, and jump to conclusions the way you have. You were not involved, and have no business trying to GET involved. Do you realised you could be sued for defamation of character? If you continue with this, I WILL seek legal advice.You are warned. Kim of Mystyx Ferrets ALL of which are ADV negative == Kim Wolf,Mystyx Samoyeds, Ferrets,& Ferret Rescue. Galloway, Ohio Our Website: www.geocities.com/mystyx_samoyedsnferrets Rescue site www.geocities.com/mystyxrescue [Posted in FML issue 3251]