Coming out of lurk mode... RE: spiders. Ever see "Aracnaphobia"? <G> (Did I spell that right?) RE: Massage. I like Linda Tellington-Jones' methods. She has numerous books out on the subject. The method/style is called the "T-Touch". I've successfully used this method on a VERY sensitive, spook prone horse. He would relax to the point of almost falling asleep! Going back into lurk mode.... Tequita [Posted in FML issue 3238]