wait. t. allen was taken off this list? for what? speaking their mind? you have to be kidding me. [Moderator's note: No, she asked to be unsubscribed and I complied. I also sent her a note expressing my regrets and inviting her to check in again if she feels the FML could ever be of service. BIG] i agree with them. hate me if you choose to, as i know many on this list will. i have been continually astounded at the immaturity of many people on this list. the stupid and pointless flames. the bickering. the childish behavior. and the funny thing is many of these are done by big names in the ferret community. so i find it quite strange, and quite stupid (for a lack of a better word) that t. allen has been taken off the list for speaking their mind. like i've said, in my time on this list i've seen some horrible examples of adults going on 12. and they are still here. maybe you are exempt from rational behavior when you're a big person in the ferret community. so if this whole thing about getting kicked off is true, i'm signing off as well. this list has really gotten silly. that is not to say that every single issue is full of flames and idiocy. no. but when i've either stopped reading it or skim over most of it i know that it no longer is of much help. i've posted in the past asking for help or suggestions and have gotten no answer (except troy lynn who was kind enough to help me out with my last question), or one or two. i find it hard to believe that not one person out of 3000 or so has not had an experience in what i'm trying to learn more about. maybe there is just too much flaming and talk about marshall farms (*yawn*) to really help out those who need the help. and i've noticed that when someone does post looking for help the next issue is full of "that's not right because it's not what i would do". perfect example was the post on the inexpensive ferret. was it really necessary to be so harsh? and please remember something. there is a difference between giving advice and flaming. most of you just flamed. and i think just for flamings sake. i am not posting this to destroy the list as a whole. there are many people on here that don't talk much and are really good people. but like i said, there are many people who have posted in the past that either instantly flame (self righteous people are very annoying) or try to sound incredible above everyone and just come off sounding like idiots. and then there are the people who flip out over something and end up posting misinformation because they can't control themselves (the marshalls farm thing comes to mind). i find it hard to believe that i'm the only one who sees this. it's a shame that one of the other people that did was kicked off for voicing this opinion (among other things). if this isn't posted, fine. but if i'm going to be silenced for speaking my mind when it seems perfectly ok for some to do the same thing (with no punishment), then i want no part of it. jaymi (who isn't one to care much about ruffling some feathers) [Posted in FML issue 3192]