My apologies for any confusion:The gentleman I wrote of was not a pilot, or a guard, or the person who transported the children from Norway to the camp. He was not a spy that has proof he carried out with him. He was a Jew in a death camp working in the crematorium. It was clear to me when he spoke that the children were not flown directly into camp, as I have read a little about the death camp. I forget that others may not know this. Out of our conversation, there were two things this Auschwitz surviver could not forget that hit him hard that he spoke of. One was how the killing machine continued after all else was lost. He focused on those two little girls to block out thoughts of all the rest: that was what went through my mind as he spoke. He said the guards talked about it, and one gaurd in particular told him about the children. This man-then a 17 year old boy- had to dispose of the children. Obviously, he could not have been in a position as a Jewish prisoner in a death camp for two years to learn of this any other way. And later he learned that Roosevelt was shown pictures of the camps and talked with someone from one of the camps-but did nothing. Worse yet to him was that we did not bomb the camps. That is how he said people at the camp felt. Why did the United States not destroy the camp? Why did we not help these abused peoples suffering terribly? Why did we allow such horrible things to happen? SOunds familiar, doesn't it? The man did not write a book. He does not lecture. He has absolutely nothing to gain by lying. He wished it could all be erased from his mind. We have USDA stating the atrocities of Marshall Farms, Violations of AWA, and press clippings from various sources documenting Marshall Farms animal shipping fiascoes that I have shared with you. Easy to find and read for yourselves. There are USDA excerpts from July 17, 1995, Sept. 3rd 1996, and June 30, 1998. AVAR has filed complaints against Marshall Farms with the New York State Education Departments Office of Professional Discipline. The puppy mill-Marshall Farms- had only one vet.- Dr. Scipioni -to oversee tens of thousands of surgeries. The ratio was not to exceed 3 techs per supervising vet according to article 135, section 6702 of News York's Vet Medicine and Animal Health Technology list of consolidated laws.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The conditions observed during surgery by non vets with no supervision was unsanitary. In 1998, a fire at the puppy mill killed 450 animals. A sprinkler system had never been put in during all these years the mill has existed to protect the animals all crowded together. As of 1999, there was still no sprinkler system according to research associate Peter Wood. Mr. Wood states that he was present at the transport by Marshall Farms puppy mill of sick dogs. The ASPCA reported on this. One was in such bad shape that it was bleeding from the rectum and had a fever. The Marshalls did not take it back to care for itMr. Wood writes. But then, This Is How Puppy Mills Operate. AThe suffering of living beings-our ferrets- is largely ignored The fines that USDA should have imposed according to the press instead became a promise that Marshall Farms would take a course on how to safely ship dogs on airplanes. The USDA is now being sued by the Doris Day Animal group for these kinds of wrist slappings for animal atrocities. YAHOO. If you don't wish to believe one of the few camp survivors who can give us no papers or pictures but spoke from his heart-you will not. The info on Marshall Farms is in black and white and from various sources that are easy to check on. To cry out against Marshall Farms and puppy mills in general, go to ask jeeves.com. Type in Doris Day Animal League. You can find your Congressmen and women: their names, phone numbers, and addresses. You can also see the other crucial animal issues that this animal protection group is currently dealing with. This is just one of a number of groups that struggled to keep Marshall Farms from committing atrocities in France. OR:Simply stop using Marshall Farm products. Don't buy a puppy mill puppy or ferret. Or organize a group of interested people. Let them know about Marshall Farms. Hand out brochures or flyers. And spread the word. Or just ignore the plight of ferrets in Marshall Farms.......... Pretend you don't have this information. Don't investigate for yourself. Just say- as several of you have written to me-but I have a cute ferret, puppy, or cat from a puppy mill.And I love it. As though that makes everything alright for the thousands who will never be loved or free of pain, boredom, lonliness, discomfort. What do you think happens to the thousands of ferrets after they can no longer be bred or while they are breeding?? The survivors of the camps are nice people. I know the grandson of a slave. He is a nice person. What does that mean?? That slavery is a good thing? That death camps are o.k.? I have a ferret from Marshall Farms and I love him, and he is very nice.So puppy mills must be good things. SOunds familiar doesn't it? My thoughts Lisette [Posted in FML issue 3175]