There are a couple of posts in this issue which I feel are more about general animal welfare than about ferrets. If it gets out of hand -- and it's just about there -- I'll be returning them. Again, it's an important issue, but off-topic for the FML. I'll be at the Ferrets 2000 symposium in a few hours --- the next FML will be brought to you from Canada if all goes well. Bill [Posted in FML issue 3174]