>You probably got this figured out by now. And you're right. All twenty >(20) of his toes are gone. Just cut off. Crunch, crunch crunch crunch >crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch, times 2. Dolly was my first ferret. She was bought from a *private breeder*, but she had the 2 dots in her ear. She was also purported to be *going on 5*...................and she was *de-clawed* on all 4 feet. My son bought her for his GF as a Xmas present......but she soon discovered *Dolly smelled* (cleaning the cage would have helped)..........so when GF departed, I confiscated Dolly, bought her an actual ferret cage, and proceeded to enjoy her antics for almost 5 years. She crossed the Bridge in January 1999. She just sort of....ran...out...of....gas. Went quietly, curled up in her blankies. The next day I adopted 2 MF girls from a foster home. Imagine my total shock to find out that these 2 little *twins of terror* were CLIMBERS!!!!!! Polly and Molly are a blast. They are so much a blast, that they were joined last week by Hope and Glory...........2 more climbers......... that's 80 clicky, scratchy, climby, diggy little nails loose here in my office.........I understand in Europe it is illegal to de-claw cats and ferrets......(but I've been wrong before........) Dolly came to me that way, but I wouldn't think of doing to my present 4.............in fact, I can't imagine my vet condoning it. But I've also heard of people having vocal cords severed on a constantly barking dog......*so it wouldn't bother the neighbors*. Diane I. [Posted in FML issue 3138]