Renee... have you tried putting newspapers down where they like to go?...then every morning...or whenever...you can just pick it up and throw it away... i have 14...and they are either free roam all over the house/free roam downstairs/or free roam upstairs...the couple that i have to cage while the others are free usually go in the box in the cage while they are in the cage...[sorry...:) ] we also have those plastic runners in front of the doors and they use them really good...i just clean it when i see it has been used...in case someone comes over...:) but the newspapers work really well...for us, anyway!!! well...good luck...and believe me...i think most of us sympathize... sometimes things DO seem to get too much...:) ...but then you vent and things seem better...:) HUS! kat ===== KITY=^..^=KAT... ( a.k.a. ...FuzzieMom ) and the krew... Rascal, Sassy, Wolfie, Monkey(Shine), Meeja, Narmy, PopPye, Noodles (Slyk), Charlie, Sandi-Mandi, Hope HollyHeart, & Edison!, "Lucky(13), and Princess!!!!! Remembering Marcel, LittleWhiteGirl & OldGuy...at the Bridge! THE FERRETS' PAGE..."http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/2396" Help Ferrets Unlimited Ferret Shelter...Use I-Give... http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=7364&mid=103840 [Posted in FML issue 3123]