Don't think I could give $$ to a shelter that I have never been to and am for sure that they properly care for their ferrets. One of the shelter's Jennifer said in the beginning of her challenge, I worry about the care that her ferret's receive. I wouldn't want to give $ to someone who abuses animals, or abuses people. I think that before you give a shelter $, you should be certain thats it's going to the ferret's, not for beer or drugs or something. I had some problems with a couple of shelter women that made me think that they couldn't care for ferrets properly, since they are so mean and ignorant, and admit to taking drugs and drinking, on the ferret newsgroup. I don't think drug addicts should own any pet's. There is proof of this on deja http://x27.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=533029154&search=thread & CONTEXT=3D95848347" if you need it. I also read on other boards, and the FML that one of them runs a dirty shelter. Is also breeding ferret's and keeping it a secret from a ferret club so she can get free stuff. I support two shelters near me, because I've been there, and know that the operator knows what they're doing, and knows how to properly care for ferrets. I think that anyone who gives $ should do it too. If ya like you can email me and I'll tell ya who I'm talking about. Don't want to start a flame war, but I just think you should check out any person that asks/begs for $. Don't bother flaming me either, since I know where the delete key is, and how to use it. Don't need the hassle or the threats from the crazies. Don't want the poor ferrets to suffer either, and maybe they will if these places stay open due to donations. I am pretty sure that none of the people I am talking about have jobs, and need donations to take care of their ferret's. Who know's, maybe some of the shelters out there are really not even shelters. Went to one shelter's website today who says they have 40 ferrets, but they only have a picture of one. This shelter is also connected with the one that Jennifer talked about. Asked her if she had been there, and she said no. Maybe they just collect the money for themself. There's no real way of knowing unless ya go there. [Posted in FML issue 3054]