>From: Sukie <[log in to unmask]> >BTW: once they know that they have nothing to fear the past abuse victims >typically become the absolutely sweetest ferrets imaginable, and certainly the most grateful I have taken in some biters over the past 4 yrs. While 1 of them has never let herself be handled by strangers, most of the others have done well. We go with giving lots of treats. Mostly linotone (ferretone, furotone) mixed with 50% olive oil or just plain olive oil. We put in on a spoon between the bars, from the bottle or being held and from the bottle. We radomly pick up the ferrets while they are out playing and give them treats. It cuts down on having them run away when I need to grab several ferrets in a hurry and return them to their cage. We radomly take ferrets out of their cage, carry them around, don't let them down to play, give them a treat and return them to their cages. I genuinely try to limit the discipline on new ferrets and terrified ferrets. When it is needed a good scruff and the occassional drag are convincing enough. Biters and terrified ferrets only become more scared with loud noises and any type of tapping/flicking you may want to try. Take what you need and leave the rest. KG [Posted in FML issue 3067]