All, I can't say anything about the AFA as such living in the UK but surely one of the concerns here is that people who have no experience of ferrets are going to go away from these shows thinking that the only way to train a ferret is to smack round the head. Many people probably have no idea about how fragile a ferrets skull is. It is obvious that people on this list have differing views on this subject but that has been gained from experience of ferrets people attending these show cannot be assumed to have this and should not be given the impression that hitting is the ONLY way. Personally I would never hit Felix even if he does get a tad over nippy I exile him to the spare room this is punishment enough as he normally has free run when I'm home. Also this only occurs when we are playing and I've learnt that ferret play and teeth seem to go hand in hand (or should that be hand in teeth) usually he just grips my fingures but applies no real pressure. My 1 pence worth. Tony and Felix http://homepages.tesco.net/~anthony.clark/ferret/ [Posted in FML issue 3010]