hello all.....dooks to everyone...prayers and good thoughts to those that have sick babies and little ones that have crossed over the rainbow bridge.... Help Please!!!! I have a little girl named Toothling. She came to me from a loving home but she was just to hyper for the gang there, didn't get along too well. I was told she was not a biter despite her name, however that is not the case. She is a dark eyed white, very small 1 pound maybe a little more and she is about 2 years old. She has lived with me for most of her life. She has always bit. Playing too rough or just nipping to hard I never have figured out which. She doesn't bite all the time but the frequency is increasing. She also is biting much harder now almost breaking the skin. It is becoming more difficult to get her to let go. I am afraid to do the water thing as she is so small. I am afraid that would traumatize her and that would be counterproductive. I coax her into letting go, push my hand (easily of course) further into her mouth, add pressure then she lets go. But the teeth indention's are serious. She means business that is for sure. I do believe she is deaf as she doesn't respond to me when I say OUCH or that hurts or NO, plus she doesn't come or even act as though she hears me when I call everyone for treats. Unless I physically go, pick her up and bring her to the treats she wouldn't get any. I have the bitter apple and it seems to help for a while but when I think we are done with the biting thing she starts it again. I am at a loss. She seems to bite me very hard for no apparent reason. I am careful to not come up on her too suddenly or touch her if she doesn't see me first. I am at a loss. I have quite a bit of experience with biters but this case is different. She doesn't bite because she was neglected or abused. Doesn't seem to be fear causing it. Oh, also she has her scent glands but doesn't poof EVER!!! I have a clan of 10 and they get pretty physical but she has never poofed. Could the biting me be because she is so small. I must seem like a giant to her. Now all of my little ones playfully bite and sometimes get too rough but they have learned the phrase...too hard, your hurting mommy and they let me go....even Baby Huey who took me over a year to get him to trust that I wouldn't hurt him. He was extremely fearful of hands. He would go out of his way to bite me and would bring blood. Testing me I figured. I have alot of scars on my hands, arms and feet from that experience. But today he is a lover...stills bites a little too hard sometimes but it is now by accident or him being too excited not out of fear. I just don't know what to do. I don't want to not pick her up and love on her. Sometimes she even goes to sleep in my arms. This is confusing. Has anyone had experience with this???? Dooks to All Cheryl and the Royal Gang (Chief, Tabitha, Snuffy, Oscar, Oliver, Baby Huey, Toothling, Damian, Calvin and Hobbs) [Posted in FML issue 3017]