>From: RRC <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Bob C: Q-N-A: Fit to be Tied Got a non-scruff way of holding a ferret for you to try... From the back of the ferret, put your index and middle fingers just behind the cheek bones and your thumb and other two fingers behind the forelegs from the back. Once you get the knack of this you can hold any jill and she can not reach you. And most males. Them big neck boys can be tiring to hold this way but less so than by scruffing. >From: SUSAN MALONE <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Kits Eyes Opening >Again, it's a simple matter of the process and tear ducts etc and not a >reflection on the abilities of the breeder or their care of the kits. Its also extrememly easy to manage. We get an ointment from the vet that we just apply at the first signs of a problem. Never had a long lasting problem nor permanent damage. b&d -- bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets http://www.zenferret.com/ mailto:[log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 3026]