I just wanted to say thank you to Bob C. I am enjoying his very educational posts. This isn't new information to me (There was a report a year or two ago that stated that the life expectancy of an outdoor cat is 5 years, whereas an indoor only cat is 15 years and up. And this is in regards to a domestic species!) but I do still like to read about it when it's so well written and explained. My one burning question now is what are the environmental factors that are prevalent in North America that are contributing to the high incidence of adrenal disease. What can we change in our environment to help lessen the incidence rate? Just a quick comment in regards to Pat Wright in California. I agree with Renee that I cannot condone holding a knife against a police officer. I understand standing against injustice, but as Renee says, he knowingly was breaking the law, stupid as that law is. I certainly understand his anger and pain, but his reaction was just not smart. He's not in jail for keeping ferrets; he's in jail for threatening a police officer with a weapon. It's not the same thing. I think that if I were in California, I'd invest in some hefty padlocks and padlock the cages closed if anyone came to my door. That and I'd have a safe house arrangement set up with other ferret friends so I could whisk my kids away to safety at the first sign of trouble and they could do the same. (A sick, fun thing to do would be to put stuffed ferrets into the empty cages for when the bad guys come in, but that's just me being silly.) To Deb: Now that you mention it, Java yawns when I scritch him too. I haven't really noticed the others doing it tho. Then again, Java is the only one who lets me scritch him when he's laying down or curled in his donut bed. All the others jump up when I come into the room to play with them. Maybe they yawn because they get so relaxed when they're scritched? I can't explain it either. Time to go back to work. Cheers to all! Anastasia Kidd home email: [log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 2971]