Thanks to Caroline Morris here is the URL for the tubes. http://shop.woodcraft.com/woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=1780 They have 2 sizes, 4" & 2.5". They are 10' long. Woodcraft 210 Wood County Industrial Park PO Box 1686 Parksburg, WV 26102-1686 1-800-225-1153 The URL takes you right to the page you need. Hug the Fuzz Lynn [Posted in FML issue 2925]