when will the maddness end? when will the little deamon creatures have their fill? how many squeezably soft charman toilet paper rolls must be shredded into unrecognisable piles on the floor, where only dna testing can tell what brand they were? Save us, Mr. Whipple! (yes, I came home to find a 4 pack of brand new, WAS still in the plastic wrap when I last saw the victim, toilet paper, completely shredded on the floor . and carried to every other part of the house). :-) beckers -- You are never free of your past, you can only build upon it. [Posted in FML issue 2919]