Hi everyone, Like said before thanks to everyone who helped me decide on PVC. Now a question to go with it. Do any Martins cages penthouse owners know how many ferrets the penthouse holds? It is a big cage, I have a friend who has 11 in it. Can it hold that amount or more/less? My heart goes out to all who have sick fuzzies or ferrets that have recently crossed the rainbow bridge. It is very hard on you because you love em' so much. You will get thru it (eventually!) day by day. You just got to take it slow, deep breaths, and, for people who don't like to cry, its impossible not to. I feel sick until I have a good cry about it. Just take it slow and you'll make it. I still haven't gotten any sure answers about those remedies I've talked about, so I will be calling them. I am also buying some for some sick guinea pigs. Once they get sick, they like always die, so I'll give these herbs a try. I'll let everyone know how it goes to see if we should seriously consider getting them for ferrets. And, I hope everyone's warm, its been -20 F. and lower!!! (during the day that is.) Bright blessings, Heidi [Posted in FML issue 2940]