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William Killian <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:54:38 -0400
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>Subject: Marshall Farms. What to feed wild baby duckling?  Help PLEASE?
>
>I am not going to persue this, despite several kind people feeling I
>should speak out.  My words are turned around, or key phrases left out,
>or I have people e-mailing me that I am being threatened on another
>mailing list, etc.
 
Wow!  Who would threaten you?  And on another mail list even!  Perhaps
someone is manipulating you instead.  It has happened to you before when
you were told we were evil.
 
BTW: About the life and death situation with Matan's jill..
 
Aplastic anemia is not going to kill every jill that doesn't get bred.
It seems to be mostly a problem in the US.  The odds in testing as written
in Fox's book is that 50% of unbred jills will get it and die.
 
But many of us breeders here in the US have noticed that if jills are
housed together often they bring each other out of season.
 
Just because it was written on the internet in ferrret forums and repeated
hundreds of times it might not be exactly accurate.
 
Matan, listen to Bev.  She is over there and knows more about your
country's situation.
 
Ferret jills do not need to have babies.  If spayed they will not even
notice that they aren't going into season.  They will lead happier and
healthier lives.
 
Yes happier lives as the reproductive cycle is very hard on jills.
 
>From:    matan rosenstrauch <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: I (MATAN) REPLY TO U ALL
>
>1st, whats that BULSHIT about me being a fraud????????
 
>Ignore that particularly mean soul.  She is just mean and likes to
>cause problems for others.
>
>so what - im an israeli and have english spelling mistakes.  hebrew
>isnt a latin language
 
English is more Germanic than Romantic (like latin)  Still very unlike
your Semetic language.
 
>AND STOP CALLING ME A FOOL - coz i aint so.
 
No.  You are not.  We though do hope you reconsider what to do for your
jill.
 
She appears to have an irregularity in her estrus cycle.  It is perhaps
better to not breed those with problems.
 
>till there r no too mant ferrets here it is just ok to let them breed.
>and whoever said animals r not like humen and dont have the need to
>breed
 
It is not a need.  If spayed they will not miss the breeding at all.  It
is driven by hormones that are driven by seasonal cycles (mostly light
based in that they typically go into season soon after the shortest day
of the year)
 
There is a sex drive but controlling it is also a good thing.
 
>coz sex isnt enjoyable for them!!  its a fact not an opinion.
 
Alcohol is something alcoholics are driven to drink but they get to the
point that while their bodies crave it, the alcohol is neither enjoyable
nor good for them.  It is better for an alcoholic to not have the alcohol
their body says they need.
 
>SO I KNOW ITS NOT SIMILAR - 4 us its the fun of sex and kids, for them its
>the desire of passing the genes.
 
You understand the difference.  But the drive to reproduce can be thwarted
with no damaging effects on the female ferret.
 
Of course she is your jill it is your responsibilty to do for her what
you think is best.  We hope that you reconsider.  We are not opposed to
your breeding ferrets.  Just think you should consider whether breeding
this particular jill is best for ferrets in general.
 
Odd that Diane I are half the total to disagree the allowing of that
horrendous post to go through.  Actually it is embarassing us to be a
part of such a mean spirited group.
 
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets
[Posted in FML issue 3454]

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