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zen and the art of ferrets - bill and diane <[log in to unmask]>
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>From:    Pam Grant and STAR* Ferrets <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: MF and shelters
>Okay - I want to put at least MY interaction in this issue to rest.
 
I think the point we should get from your post was that every time shelters
approach Marshall tries a different tack to satisfy the shelters.  But since
its different folks each time its a disjointed not consistent negotiation.
Too many in the ferret world claim to represent more than they actually do.
 
We hadn't discussed in particular your conversations with them.  The $60
figure came from A-X.  He is elusive with details so we don't know where he
got that figure.
 
But your main points seems to agree almost EXACTLY with ours.  Guess that
makes you evil too...
 
>From:    Sandi Ackerman <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Sales vs Adoption
>Well, I suppose with this logic then the human adoption agencies are selling
>human babies.  Do they have to collect sales tax on money (adoption fees)
>exchanged for goods (human babies)?  I don't think so.  Selling human babies
>is actually illegal, but an "adoption" is not.
 
In the eyes of US law, a pet is property and is sold.  A human is NOT
property so may not be sold.  Those human adoption agencies that are found
to be selling humans are prosecuted.
 
>Oh please!  Have you never heard of "we reserve the right to refuse
>service to anyone"?
 
Yes.  But its not strictly legal depending upon why service is denied.
Denny's got in big trouble over that.  Didn't matter if they had a sign or
not.  Back to the first point.  In the eyes of law a pet is property and as
such is sold.
 
You can choose freely to not serve someone obviously drunk, the US doesn't
recognize drunkeness as protected in Civil rights laws.  But it is batant
discrimination to decide whether someone is too poor in your OPINION to
deserve a ferret.  We don't abide by bigotry.  Many of the very best people
we know are too poor to rub two nickels together.  But they love and care
for their pets.  There are vets that will run a tab for clients, they do for
shelters.  Shelters here beg all the time, they obviously are poor.  Too
poor to afford proper vet care?  Yes.  But they do not make bad caretakers
for the ferrets.
 
Feel free to have whatever policies you want for your operation but be aware
laws do apply.  That was all that I implied or said.
 
>From:    alphachi <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: DEJA'S EATING AT LAST and some other chatter
>disposal(hopefully): 49th
 
Good news about Deja...
 
As for the rest.  You do not seem interested in what we actually say and are
just lifting bits out of context and twisting words.  No more.  Manipulate
someone else for a while.
 
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets
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