<http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/messages/16841?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1> but if that does not work work for you, you can use the following link and then click open "expand messages" http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/message/16841?threaded=1 includes this useful vet post: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/message/16844 Sukie (not a vet) Recommended ferret health links: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/ http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ http://www.miamiferret.org/ http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/ http://www.ferretcongress.org/ http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html all ferret topics: http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html "All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow." (2010, Steve Crandall) On change for its own sake: "You can go really fast if you just jump off the cliff." (2010, Steve Crandall) [Posted in FML 7361]