I forgot to mention that very, very bad cases of those can be seen with Canine Distemper. (I'd only mentioned the milder ones of unknown cause.) Anyway, a CD relevant section begins here at about the 5 minute mark: http://www.vimeo.com/16566253 I just had a tiny bit of time to devote to this so have not seen much of his presentation, so thank goodness for other FHL moderators because one of them did, and thanks to Jeff for sharing it with the FHL. Sukie (not a vet) Recommended ferret health links: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/ http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html http://www.miamiferret.org/ http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/ http://www.ferretcongress.org/ http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html all ferret topics: http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html "All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow." (2010, Steve Crandall) On change for its own sake: "You can go really fast if you just jump off the cliff." (2010, Steve Crandall) [Posted in FML 6915]