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Sukie Crandall <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:46:35 -0500
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Millie, I loved your balanced post today!

I think that among ferret people when things get out of hand for
someone who was trying to help there is the realization, especially if
the animals taken in were already compromised, that things can go wrong
really rapidly. So, people worry, "There but for good fortune and
volunteers go I" but in reality I think that most would call for help,
and that is backed by the low numbers of actual hoarders found: about
700 a year in the U.S. Still, people do tend to identify with those
they know or those with similarities, whether they should or should
not.

You said that Animal Control must have been involved before for there
to have been a seizure. Articles I have read indicated that this was
apparently a third time. I don't know if they had that right, of
course.

In really extreme cases (i.e. OTHER cases) sometimes seizure happens
straight away, for instance, in one other case recently the conditions
were so bad that the home was condemned.

Of course, even in extreme cases (such as the Irish one and the Welsh
one recently, each of which involved degrees of cannibalism by the
animals to survive according to newspaper articles) even people who
have been banned due to past hoarding have a tendency to fall into that
behavioral disease trap again. Both Renee and i carried the UK link for
one of those yesterday.

Some things about actual hoarders for when people make their own
decisions about DEGREE of behavior:

1. Often they convince themselves that the animals are better off with
them rather than with anyone else

2. If they face having to give up animals some will instead try to have
the animals destroyed as per the first comment

3. They sometimes steal the animals of others and will use any excuse
to do so, but it boils down to them believing the first comment

4. They often convince themselves that they know more about medical
needs than veterinarians do and tend to not provide needed veterinary
care. That is one of the reason that the history of medical care
becomes so important. The amount of medical care provided compared to
the number of ferrets present will be considered along with the
condition of the animals. For already compromised animals the amount
of veterinary care will need to be higher than for healthy ones for
obvious reasons. Again, see the first comment.

5. Often their homes also lack sanitary conditions: uncontrolled and
extreme piles of feces, garbage that has been sitting around for ages,
etc.

6. Often the time needed by the overwhelming number of animals and the
unsanitary conditions also undermine the health of the person, even
when the animals' needs are not being met, so the situation spirals.
Some things that can happen with unsanitary conditions: such high
bacterial loads that it is impossible to have safe food in the house,
high enough levels of ammonia to damage respiratory health, fire
hazards, parasites, extreme rodent infestations, etc.

According to Dr. Gary Patronek, an expert on animal hoarding, "The
drive to do this is so strong that recidivism is almost 100 percent."

Of course, there are multiple types of animal abuse, some of which have
entirely different nuances, for example, those engaging in Munchasen by
Proxy may purposely make their animals ill to spend more time getting
attention.

Some resources (but some might no longer exist):
Hoarding, MBP, misuse of animals to get drugs, and other Animal Abuse:
AVMA:
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/oct02/021015a.asp

Tufts site with extensive information:
http://www.tufts.edu/vet/cfa/hoarding/

Psychiatric journal article on hoarding:
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000425.html

HSUS:
<http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/behind_closed_doors_the_horrors_of_animal_hoarding.html>

Pet abuse database:
http://www.pet-abuse.com/database/

http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/reprint/30/4/520.pdf

http://www.vet.utk.edu/violence/pdf/munchausen.pdf

http://www.animaltherapy.net/Vets-abuse.html

http://www.vet.utk.edu/violence/pdf/accidental.pdf

http://www.veterinaryireland.ie/ivj/july%2005/peer.pdf

Cruelty to animals becomes cruelty to humans (useful info for cases
brought against abusers):
http://www.vachss.com/guest_dispatches/ascione_3.html

Animal Welfare Act:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/legislat/awa.htm

USDA publications to find regulations:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publications.html

Sukie (not a vet)

Recommended ferret health links:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html
http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html

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