Jennifer, it is extremely common for vets to pretreat before vaccinations with ferrets and rate numbers for reactions exist, yet you wrote, exclaimed and shouted: >your 'ADVICE' about pre-treating and about vaccinations in general is >TOTALLY MISGUIDED!!!!... >> "As a safety precaution: ALWAYS PRETREAT for ALL vaccinations"... >> Allergic reactions to Purevax and Imrab-3 are less common but HAVE >> been known to occur. > ...SAYS WHO / WHAT ????? Less common that WHAT ? > ...And WHAT VETERINARIAN worth his degree would support these > statement, let alone recommend this protocol???? I don't know who or how many of us in the conversation you were addressing (shouting at), but the below info will allow you to clarify and confirm: The reaction rate info for the corporate testing portion of Purevax development can be found in the FML Archives, I am sure, since it was discussed here so much during that time. Since then rates come from what vets have reported, and records vets have kept. The rates in the study were better than those from later, but still excellent. You can search the FML. Here are a few of the VETS' comments from the FHL's Archives: http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG16036 (rate allusion and pretreatment stuff) http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG14440 (also both) http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG13925 (both topics and more detailed for you) http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG9763 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG8161 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG8160 (a lot of info in there) http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG8134 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG8133 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG3826 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG3775 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG2271 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=SG2249 (frank statement about the 3 vax and rates) http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=YG14059 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=YG12724 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=YG10395 http://ferrethealth.org/archive/browse.php?msg=YG8154 AND THERE ARE MORE in the FHL Archives and FML Archives. I didn't count, but I guess the above are from about 7 ferret veterinary experts. -- Sukie (not a vet, but who does pretreat on the advice of her current ferret vets, her past ferret vets in the 15 or so of our 25 years with ferrets, and statements such as the above) Ferret Health List co-moderator http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives fan http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ replacing http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org International Ferret Congress advisor http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5121]