Thanks for your comments. In the past I have had to take a lot of abuse form so called uk ferret experts because I am supposed to be a bad ferret owner and it even went so far as to have a UK ferret experts from a national ferret club taking one of the pictures of me off my web site and altering it by putting a couple of ferrets feet in my mouth to try and prove to others that I was a ferret eating monster. They then posted the said picture on an animal rights web site as well as other sites so it is only quite recently that I have started to hit back and put pictures of my ferrets online so that everyone can make up their own minds The man with a new idea is a crank until other take it up Mark Twain http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intact-ferrets/ http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/house-ferrets http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/First_Page-Index.html Come see some of my hobs and jills http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/Some_of_my_jills.html Some of our fund-raising events http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/Show.html [Posted in FML issue 5154]