One problem with clear plastic water bottles is that through time clear plastic will turn a muddy brown if they get direct sun on them. Some of my bottles have been around for about 20 years and even though they look dirty the work perfectly well. The man with a new idea is a crank until other take it up Mark Twain http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/First_Page-Index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/ferretwelfare/index.html http://theflamingferret.ipbhost.com/index.php? [Posted in FML issue 4937]