Hi Personally I leave my kits with mum untill they are 12 weeks old, this allows the jills milk glands time to dry up naturaly. I have done it this way for the past 30 years. The man with a new idea is a crank until other take it up Mark Twain http://www.asacp.org/ The adult site industry making the difference in the battle against child pornography http://www.headway.org.uk/ The brain Injury association http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/First_Page-Index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/ferretwelfare/index.html http://theflamingferret.ipbhost.com/index.php? [Posted in FML issue 4870]