If you all have not figured out yet that the kids and I are drowning here. I guess this is a good indication. I have another item on eBay up for auction. Please take a look to see if it is something you can use. thanks for your time and all you do for us. Auction is for a nice cage. BIGŁ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2388788074 A Special link from Special Friends http://ferretlover97.terrabox.com/shelterhelp-Lakeroad.html [Posted in FML issue 4460]