I had rushed through my replies because of lightening. Alright, I have to tell you this. We have a little toy piano with a toddler safe touch panel where the keys would be. Ashling is eating while she is playing it with her bum and rear feet. Spleens: These should help you: http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG3724 http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG3391 http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG3368 http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG2250 http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG1018 http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG491 There are more vet posts on the topic there, too, so you'll want to do your own search. I just pulled a few for you http://www.ferretcongress.org/ (Critical Refs) Just in case this is needed (since it's among the other causes): http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/aleutian.htm [Posted in FML issue 4165]