I've heard alot of good things about Martins. I have a Midwest cage that I've modified. Here's a couple of links for you to look at on modifications. I went by the first link and added 2 levels. Also look at http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&safe=off &group=alt.pets.ferrets and do a search on midwest and you'll come up with alot of ideas if you go the midwest route. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/8901/cagepicture.html http://home.att.net/~The_Ferrets/cage/cageindex.html Sherry Elmo and Zoe [Posted in FML issue 3678]